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and now they want to trade rebels to syria. and given our track record, is that the right move for america? and people all over the planet with one thing in common, they're not from these parts. i'm ali velshi, and this is "real money." this is "real money", and you are the most important part of the show, so tell me what's on your mind by tweeting me at ali velshi or hit me up on facebook. like it or not, the united states is involved in another war in the middle east. but this one is a lot more murky. we do know that u.s. planes and drones and cruise missiles struck syria for the first time overnight, targeting islamic state of iraq and lavant, isil fighters on the ground there, and they did it with the help of five arab countries,
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including saudi arabia and jordan that have joined president obama's coalition to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. this follows weeks of targets in neighboring iraq. they struck or damaged them, killing reportedly more than 20 fighters in raca alone, this is the capital in syria. alone, and this matters because the u.s. launched strikes overnight, this time on its own. west of aleppo, in an area controlled by an al qaeda affiliate known as the coreo san group. it used to be isil. and the core san group, which
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we are going to hear a lot about, is said to work closely with the new front. this is al qaeda's official outfit in syria. both want to impose their radical view on islamic on the country, but isil has guatnence nus are a and unlike isil, they work with other groups with so-called moderates like the free syrian army. this is one of the groups that president obama wants to free. they may make al qaeda's affiliate to recalliate against these guys. and that would mean that the rebels that the u.s. backs would be fighting the assad
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regime, isil, and possibly nusra. don't worry, i'm not going to quiz on you this, if i didn't think that it was important for you to know, i would spare you a tedious lesson. because it's complicated. but america is about to pay a lot more for even more war adventures in the u.s. after decades, the u.s. has spent 1 and a half trillion dollars for military operations in iraq. and since they restarted in june, the effort to degrade isil has cost about $730 million. and this is only expected to grow. airstrikes, they seem simple, are very expensive. i talked too much. and to make sense of this, let's go to mike viqueira, he's not at the white house, but he's here now, and mike, this is the stuff that gets discussed at the brief beings and the defense important, and we don't hear about it here,
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but this is the problem. america has a really bad record of backing the wrong team. >> president obama went to the american people and said that he wanted to do this, and at the central command, he went to tampa, florida and signed off on what was put before him. but even today, lieutenant mayville said that it's always going to be iraq first because they have an army in iraq. about half of the iraqi battalions are said to be non-trustworthy and that's the assessment of the u.s. intelligence agencies. they have the peshmerga fighting with them. >> they are an army, run by the government, and they're happy to have the americans. >> the president made disparaging comments about the
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free syrian army, and now that the u.s. is embarking on this strategy, and the problem is, or part of the question is you create this vacuum now by hitting isil as hard as they did, not to mention this khorasan group. and who is going to fill that vacuum? because that's the question all along. >> because you have iraq and syria, very different situations and both have created that. >> the question is who moves into the space that has been admitted by the u.s. intelligence services, and publicly, they say it's going to take a year to field. but the first installment of the free syrian army training. >> this is all in th in the to t more u.s. troops in there, and we have to be careful in saying, these are military people, we call them advisers, and they are some military. >> there are so many wrinkles to this, but one of the more
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remarkable aspects of this, president obama praised these five arab nations, saudi arabia, and bahrain, they did not hit the khorasan group. but the fact of that --. >> these were not just logistical. and they didn't think that they would be using it in the areas now. >> one of the states said that the u.s. didn't need our help. clearly they didn't need it. >> let's go back to 2002, and all of the talk about iraq, and the big debate in congress. we have a midterm election coming up in a couple of weeks. and it might sound sin00, but
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the president's tone for sure is going to sound critical about the group, the breakout phases of the time table phase, american homeland. >> we don't know why they're doing this, and the next thing, they're going to be household names for us, and mike u. i hope you'll be back tomorrow. >> as we have been discussing, the president asked and the congress agreed to train the so-called syrian rebels on the ground, and whether it can make a difference. remember, the u.s. made a huge difference in training iraq's army, but as we have seen in the last months, the return on that investment is in doubt. mary snow has the report. >> reporter: in iraq, it has been weeks since the u.s. began airstrikes to target isil. on the
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ground, it is relying on an army that is taking the u.s. to build. it collapsed when sunni militants began overtaking portions of iraq this summer, prompting the u.s. to step in. when the u.s. troops withdrew in 2011, they left behind an iraqi army, built from scratch. it was a central component of the process known which would rid the country of workers under osama bin laden's rulingback party. and it's a decision that has been criticized. >> we were not sufficiently location. >> the u.s. spent $22.2 billion to train iraqi forces. that amount doesn't include equipment that the u.s. military left behind. and now more than a decade
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after the u.s. invasion, president obama has authored 1600 u.s. military personnel back to iraq. many again tasked with advising iraqi forces. mary snow, aljazeera. >> there are few people better equipped to talk about america's role and battle against isil than lieutenant colonel, john nygel. it's training the iraqi units that i want to start with. it's 2014, and americans are back in iraq advising iraqi soldiers, and welcome to the show, what went wrong that those american-trained iraqis cut and ran when confronted with isil fighters? >> in iraq, there's a lot to go
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around, but the president's decision to withdraw all american advisers in iraq late in 2011, against the advice of every military adviser he had. probably the unnecessary invitation of ac in 2003, working hard to hold iraq together after we left. we should have left 10 or 15,000 advisers there to hold all of the pieces together, to provide logistical support to the iraqi military. and to put pressure on prime minister maliki to include all of sunnis inside of iraqi government and inside leadership positions in the iraqi army. and the failure to keep american influence in iraq is leading to the disaster that we're seeing now. >> as our reporter, josh rushing, who is a marine, has reported, while we keep saying we won't have boots on the
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ground, we have 1600 of these so-called advisers, military people, and you say we don't need 1600 boots on the ground, but 10-15,000 is what we're looking at. this is so politically sensitive, but you've been there, and help americans understand, what's not getting done with the 1600 service personnel that requires 10 or 15,000? >> so what you really would like to have is an american special forces team, an adviser team, 12 personnel, which is the size of the teams that i trained in iraq and in afghanistan in my last job in the army, embedded inside of every iraqi bat al john of 500 soldiers, and those americans would provide close air support. and call in airplanes and help to adjust the artillery, and help provide access to american intelligence resources to help the iraqi military understand where the enemy was, and what was around the next bend over the hill.
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and today also provide important logistical access and advice. so those small teams of americans can multiply the effectiveness of iraqi or kurdish battalions two or three times, and make them take on the tough fight that they're about to fight against isis, something that they have shown they can't do without us. >> you co-wrote the field manual, and you classified isis as an entirely different creature than you've seen before. and tell me why. >> so we have been fighting against in the past, what i fought against in iraq in 2003, in 2004 when i last served there, was a guerilla army, full of insurgents and terrorists, and if they didn't hold the ground, they would be killed. but today, isis holds ground, it's collecting and leveeing
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taxes and it's pumping oil and selling oil, and doing rudimentary refining, and it's a rudimentary state. and it calls itself an islamic state. and the only way it was able to do so was because the iraqi army collapsed without strengthening it. so i see a two phased war. once we get the iraqi army back into fighting shape, taking on isis, it will be able to defeat those standing forces, and i predict that isis will then revert book to a guerilla war, and the iraqi forces will have to do counter insurgency after they have done counter operations. >> retired marine general, allen, was selected to coordinate the threat against isis, and he's a good friend of yours. what is his biggest challenge? >> john allen is a wonderful
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choice for this job. he played an important roll in iraq in 2006 and 2007, and helped to create the sunni awakening, where the sunnis stopped fighting against us and started fighting with us in iraq, which is the precursor to today. john allen is doing the political work in pulling the coalition together. and the early results are enormously powerful with not just the coalition, but all five flying war planes for the ordinance on enemy targets inside of syria. that's an enormous accomplishment from john allen, and he has to pull those arab countries together, so this is not just an american fight against islam. >> you said it was a mistake to pull the troops out in 2011, and we need 10-15,000 troops there now, and is this ever going to end? are we ever not going to be in iraq? >> i predict that we'll be in
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iraq for the next 50 years. i'll be gone, and there will still be americans there. in we do this right, and we leave advisers there, the iraqi fighters will be doing much of the patrolling and americans will provide the steel backbone to keep them on point, because what happens in iraq matters to the future security of the american people. >> john nagl is the author of theory and practice in stores on october 16th. it's a great read. coming up, holding banks accountable for money that ends up in the hands of terrorists. "real money" continues. on tech know, >> i landed head first at 120 mph >> a shocking new way to treat
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i want to talk now about a huge legal decision involving money and terrorism. a jury in a civil suit in new york yesterday found air you can bank liable of supporting 24 terror attacks by hamas in and around israel between 2001 and 2004. the attacks killed approximately 30 people and injured more than 100. arab bank operates more than 600 branches in 30 countries and has $46 billion in assets.
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some 300 victims of the attacks or their relatives all american citizens, brought the case against the bank in 2004. now, this marks the first time a financial institution has been found liable for violating the u.s. anti-terrorism act. a separate hearing will determine damages. arab bank plans to appeal the decision and its website says proper compliance requirements were followed. both credit leo nay and the bank of china are facing similar cases in the u.s., and many feel this verdict will send a chill through the financial industry. banks may now be held responsible for their customers' transactions even if those customers are not on a government list of terrorists. with me now is someone who has firsthand knowledge of the five-week trial of arab back, ta*tab turner was the lead attoy for the plaintiffs and says this case will change banking as it exists today. banks now need to pay close attention to who their customers are or be held civilly responsible for their actions.
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tab, good to talk to you. first of all this was a civil trial, civil judgment, not criminal. >> absolute. >> i did. >> but reminds me of the time in early 2000 where ceo' ceos would say i didn't know that was happening to my company and we have laws that says you have to know. you signed on the bottom line on your financial statement and you are responsible for everything in it. you are suggesting this is the kind of thing that will happen here? >> it's not necessarily limited to t that. it's more focused on corporations that knowingly deal with people that they know are terrorists. this is not a situation where they are being held strictly liable prince simply because of the bank somehow did business with these people. the proof in this case, focused on the fact that this bank actually knew it was doing business with hamas. >> were they -- did the proof have to be -- have to be that the bank knew it was financing terrorist activities? or that they were doing business
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with hamas, which in israel and the united states is a terrorist organization but isn't to a lot of other countries? >> the u.s. anti-terrorism act says that a bank may not knowly provide material support to a known terrorist group or an individual that they know is associating with that group. so the issue you is focused on what they know rather than what they are doing business with. >> and what was the bank's argument in this? >> the bank's argument these terrorists were not on the u.s. government on. -fac list and so consequently the bank said they weren't on the list, we ran it through our computer filter it, didn't show up, so we delivered the funds . the problem the bank had the very people they knew were terrorists had accounts at the bank, so they knew their customers, they knew exactly who these people were. >> but they weren't on the list but they knew who they were. >> they absolutely knew that
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they were associated with and affiliated with hamas. >> we just mentioned that credit leo nay of fraction and the banks of china could both face similar cases . >> absolutely natural west as well part of the bank out of the drop is als london is a defendant in another case. the issue you in terrorism, from a banking standpoint, is we have to stop terrorism. one of the ways you stop it is taking the money from them. simply relying on i list a is a good first cut but you have to know your customer, you have to know who the people are that are dealing with and who you are funneling money with and there are plenty of resources able other than the list. >> if anybody in america tries to move more than $10,000 they have to file -- under this law though say where the money is going or state a purpose for it
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if one is not a terrorist do you think changes under this ruling will affect anybody else? >> i think it will affect the banking industry worldwide. people will have to pay more attention to things other than just simply the o -fac list. they have to start asking the question, who are our customers, where is this money coming. from who is it going to. and looking at available resources from the government and also public sources that are available. >> do you think banks will comply? >> they will have to or face the problems that air i object bank has faced. >> tab, good to have you here. >> thank you so much. >> tab turner a lawyer with turner and association. coming up the climate change challenge the president calls on rich and poor country to his step up. but. two world's top polluters are staying on the sidelines. >> we pray for the children in the womb >> a divisive issue >> god is life , so it's his to
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the air strikes in syria stole the spotlight from the united nations summit on climate change today. but president obama told world leaders that the environment was a global issue that cannot be ignored. the president stressed that a new global agreement on climate change needs commitments from relinquish nations. he said the united states and
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china, two of the biggest producers of carbon, must be leaders of the cause. now the one-day summit will produce only nonbinding pledges, but it's hoped that it will lay the groundwork for a new global treaty in december of 2015. not so far away. how likely is it? for more on these are turn on our signs correspondence jacob ward, i have been saying this we did the br* a lot of oa lot of n to new york city i saw shapes and sizes of types of people who i don't think attends rallies rs and certainly probably never got out of their house to talk about the climate. i just sense between that and everything that's happened in the last few days, something of a turning points in the climate discussion. i would be curious if you city? >> i think i agree with you. there is a tremendous sense of certainly a public acceptance of what science has been tepidly endorsing for a long time. scientists are not given to bold proclamations are, jerk we are
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sure this is human caused we know this will happen in this amount of time. instead they offer their best possible guess based on lots of revisionrevisions and research o that kind of underpinning doesn't make for a movement a lot of time. and now i think we have just reached the critical point where everyone realizes we are all in, it's going to change everything for everybody. and so there is a real sense i think you are right, that there is a muc much a broader base the than there used to go. >> the u.s. is late to this party. when we travel people and us why we don't embrace science when it comes to climate in the united states? it does seem that there is pressure from the ground, pressure from the top. the united nations it, lots of corporations the world bank an agreement with 73 countries and a thousand country to his say can we put a price on ca are bon, carbon. what is going to help? >> i think that when you speak to experts in the sort of innovation game, a lot of them get excited, you know, i think
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that fundamentally they believe that people will be motivated by self interest, everybody is to some extends there has to be the tree actiocreation of a new grey a way to make money by being environmentsly responsible. we are seeing that not on the big scale but solar is one of the most active parts of the financial sector biggest endorsement a stock analyst can make right now. but we are seeing it on a micro level. we are seeing places like india, where they are foregoing the traditional long inefficient lines across the subcontinent and going fox, you know, some very specific, localized energy solutions. we are seeing that kind of thing in africa. people making money on the ground doing the ecologically responsible thing and that's because the technology has finally caught up. >> we are in this country not doing a lot of expansion of coal for the use of electricity it's still a big industry but it's shrinking. in china and india there are building coal plants. >> we i would point out are making them doing because.
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>> because we are buying the stuff they make with those factories? >> right. when we were making our own stuff we would have been having a different conversation about pollution, we d the reason you don't live next to a factory is because zoning came in to existence because we were trying to keep ourselves away from pollution. now we have, as you say export the everything, owl of our manufacturing toss countries china makes 90% of the world's computers, seven out of 10 cell phones, now that we have exported our manufacturing there, i don't know how i would say with a straight face if i was president obama for the leaders of china and india you have to play by the same rules we do. >> the president did talk about money for countries, i don't know if china and india are included in the place that his get subrid s*eud subsidies somee have to pay them before it becomes economic klee viable. >> i think that's right.
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and i think that the tipping point is probably closer than you and i might imagine when it comes to putting that kind of money in to it. it was interesting that the president talked about international development projects coming out of the united states abide buying new climate standards that they are going to somehow be asking of developing nation to his -- that the projects be ecologically redealing that was a really interesting thing, that's tough -- that would have been a tough sale 10 years ago, but now with the rise -- the possibility that those countries might make money maybe that is the thing. >> that is the tipping points the cost of generating clean energy at a lower price harassed not been the case for a thing good to see you. >> thanks. coming up next billionaires hiding behind their money, people pumping hundreds of millions of dollars in to the midterm elections but they are afraid to step out of the shadows. >> my name is shaquan mcdowell i'm a 17 year old teenager. i go to a public high school outside of the city limits of
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atlanta. it's 99% african american we do get a quality education. you know we have teachers that really care about us as far as the african american stereotypes, all the music they listen too is rap, they only use ebonics, they don't know how to speak proper english, they've never read a book in their life, all they do is get high, smoke weed, no... i've never been exposed to anything like that... coming from a mom who as a single mother, had her first child at 16, who is the ceo of her own company, me being someone who is about to graduate, who is the recipient of a full scholarship, the stereotype is absolutely flawed. >> did it ever cross your mind that. being a single mother that, your children may end up like the statistics say they're gonna fail >> being a single mom... raising five kids, i've always said you guys, you be 100% the best that you can be >> i would like to run for the senate in 2032. then it leads to the great big goal in life, to run for the office of the president of the united states of america >> catch more stories from edge of eighteen
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>> i told you last week about dark money. that's the money spent by politically active nonprofits that is flooding the political system and can't easy be tracked or sourced now with six weeks left until the midterm elects we are taking a closer look at billionaires using money to influence tight races race that his could influence the control of the united states senate. sums approaching hundreds of millions of dollars and that's just this year alone. >> the oil billionaire koch brothers are showering millions to -- >> the conservative industrial assists charles and david have become the election season night nightmare that democrats wish they could wake up from. this year is no different. in key midterm senate races like north carolina, they bought
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nearly 9,000 tv ads. hammering the opponents of tom till us, the republican candidate who shares their political wish list. cuts in government spending, cuts in taxes, and a full repeal of obama care. the billionaire brothers are expected to spend some $290 million these midterms mostly through their complicated web of dark money organizations. >> there are plenty of other organizations that are also nonprofit . 501c form social groups that are link to the koch brothers either directly or more indirectly. >> the koch brothers as pioneered the use of so-called billionaire caucuses, closed door seminars to raise cash from fellow wealthy donors past a 10 tells is including sheldon saidal son who supports pro israel causes. he spent $100 million in
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the 2012 presidential election and has so far committed $10 million this year to carl rove's crossroads gps nonprofit. with these meetings known to raise as much as $50 million a pop. but the democrats have taken on their own hush-hush affairs to rake in money from big-time donors, launched in 2005. the democracy alliance aims to, quote, build progressive infrastructure that could help counter the well-funded and sophisticated conservative' rut conservative apparatus end coped it's helped steve $500 million to groups. tom has personally donated almost $26 million this election and runs his own political nonprofit next gen climate. >> now a california billionaire to stands to profit by blocking keystone is spending big.
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>> he has focused on defeating republican senate candidates in seven states who question man-made climate change or support the keystone pipeline. they range from rick scott in florida, to scott brown in new hampshire. >> billionaires like tom stier who just hosed reed and other senate democrats at his san francisco mansion. >> but no matter who ultimately take takes control of congress these midterm elections, there are some who worry that the interests of the very rich and the influence of their dark money groups, will always win out in the end. >> some people say the more money spent on politics the better. david keating said campaign spending is good for democracy and an important expression of political free speech. he found the speech a group that in 2010 won a lawsuit against the federal election commission that effectively created the super pack. he's now president of the center for competitive politics, a nonprofit dedicated to
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protecting political free speech rights through litigation, education, and advocacy, he joins me from washington. david, you are one of the proud creator of the super pack with most people associate with runaway campaign spending and undue influence over our political minds. are you proud of this child to which you gave birth? >> sure, i am. i only wish i could get a commission on all of the ads. but yours are you that's not in the books. >> all right. >> the -- look, since we -- since this became legal, we have elections that are more competitive. we have more information to voters and we have had higher turn out. i think these a pretty good deal. >> is it fair, then, lets me ask you it to through this way is it fair that the voices of a few billionaire, we talk to tom stier and the koch brothers in the piece just now but there are others, can their own money drowned out voices of organizations and nonprofits
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that don't have millions to spends? >> well, i don't first of all a lot of the other organizations have their own supporters. and the fact is, if they are trying to sale something, the american public is going to buy it's not going to matter. you can have the worst product in the world, spend the most amount of money on advertising and if you don't have a good product, people aren't going to buy it. and in a democracy, if you have candidates running on issues, people don't care about or people don't agree with, they are not going to vote for the candidates. we have seen this -- we saw this big time in the last election 2012. groups like crossroads spent hundreds of millions of dollars and almost all of their candidates were defeated. so you know, basically what -- all we are saying here, all of these groups are doing is just making speech. what is the alternative? the alternative is would be people in government deciding that people can't say these things about what the people in government are doing. i say let people speak, let the voters decide. >> is there any sense, because
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people who are critics of this kind of spending say it has a demotivating effect on voters. and it has the opposite effect of what you are talking about. [speaking at the same time] >> actually i -- well, you don't -- it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of empirical evidence. political scientists have studied elections where there is more money, more speech, there is higher turn out. that's not too surprising. because if there is controversy, people are probably going to pay more attention. they'll see that there is more at stake. if there is a lot more discussion about these issues. so higher spends on the ground elections is correlat correlateh higher turn out and most people higher turn out a good thing. >> much of the spending is attack ads, negative ads and some have misleading and down right false claims ace journalist we get involved in it all the time in elects a good percentage of them are not honest. how do we protect the voters against that? there is no regulatory body for
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that. >> well, look, some of the states have tried to establish ministries of truth. and obviously that is a very bad idea because the people in power think what people are saying to criticize what they are doing is untrue. the solution to lies is truth. and people speaking up as you point out, news media organizations analyzing the ads and undercutting them. often -- >> but i don't see -- in truth, i have a show, and i have a staff and i have a budget and we are not actually equipped to do that. so it falls to us to do it. because we don't have a regulatory body. why is is the truth not something that we should be paying for? >> well, again, it's who do we want to be in charge of policing what truth is? i submit it's a very bad idea for people in government to be deciding these things. >> so who should be doing it? if i buy that argument you want it shouldn' someoneshould be doing it, shout they? >> basically that's the beauty
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of the first amendment is more speech and eventually the people get the truth and there are lots of organizations, the washington post, many other organizations are analyzing many, many ads during the year. >> and you know what, there is so much good and important news that doesn't get covered because we have to go there and track down lies in political ads. it's not our job, we'll do it because nobody will. but i would just much rather it be somebody's job f you don't want it to be government tell me who should. you think nobody should regulate anything that is said in a political ad in this country? come on, that's not reasonable, david. >> well, that's why we have other campaigns and other candidates and parties. when they see ads that aren't true they come back with another ad hit that go ad. it's very common -- >> it's wasteful. >> to see an ad talking about an ad. >> it's wasteful. it's a waste of monism we have a lot of products in society it's a waste of mon. >> i that may be true but as they say with democracy, the worst form of government except for all of the other forms of
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government. and the idea of regular lading speech, i think is a much worse solution than the idea of letting everybody speak and let them say as much as they want. and in the end, the voters are going to decides. >> david keating good to talk to you, thank you for joying us, david keating. good few minutes of spree speech between us athlete president for the september every of competitive politics. coming up next the ebola cries sit spreading and the virus could effect more than a million people by january, i willing look at what can be done to stop it and how much it will cost of stay with us. >> protestors are gathering... >> there's an air of tension right now... >> the crowd chanting for democracy... >> this is another significant development...
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control said there could be 1.4 million cases by mid january. now, that's a worst case scenario, and reflects the cdc's belief that thousands of ebola cases are not being reported. as i told you yesterday the world health organization says there about 5800 cases of the disease and it's killed about 2800 people. in a separate report the world health organization raised the very scary possibility that ebola could become quote endemic in west africa. meaning it could become a constant presence. report blamed the devastation on factors that include dysfunctional health systems, end quote. and international indifference. joining me now to talk about what can be done about those dysfunctional health systems, and the international response is dr. sue desmond helman the chief he have executive the bill and m melinda gates foundation. the gate foundation recently which has $41 billion in assets,
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agreed to spends $50 million to help righty bow fight ebola in . thank you for being with us. >> thank you. you have expertise in the healthcare a reason arm but the gates foundation is not indifferent obviously. but these are three countries in west africa, largely, that this is centered in, that the world didn't know much about much of the world didn't care about, even if their economies were devastated, you can't convince people in the west that it's going to some vanvleet some kind of impact outside of that. so there does seem to be indifference. we get wore wide when we someone is going to get on a plane and give use bowl, a shorts that have we are less worried. >> here is the thing to keep in mind. this has never happened before. >> yeah. >> and in many ways, this was a perfect storm. zoe bola has never been to west africa before this. ebola always was in rural areas this is the first that it's gone to an urban area and it was in many ways bad luck that it happened in a major transportation hub originally in guinea.
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so the world hasn't seen anything like this before. in fact, here is what i like to keep in mind. between 1976 when first described and 2013, fewer people were reported globally as dieing from ebola than this very out break. so less than 2,000 cases were reported globally between '76 and 2013 and now as you said, thousands of cases. we have never seen anything like this before. >> what is your sense of the response and the measures in place now. are we doing mostly the right things. or are we still falling short? >> here is how we thought about it. we made our pledge on september 10th that we would put $50 million put it to use quickly because we saw the cries discuss heard these figures that are now public. what we heard was a responsible is needed, flexible funds are needed and needed right now. so what i know is that the people on the ground, the people in the front of lines need funding, they need personal protective gear, gloves, people
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like cdc who are experts need to track and trace contacts and so there is a lot of needs that are now being met and huge mobilization has occurred particularly since cdc pointed out and dr. freed en travel today west africa and reported back to all of us . this has some re relationship to the look of healthcare infrastructure in much of africa, i spoke to the head of the world bank dr. jim kim yesterday also an infectious disease expert who says these kind of things can hit place where his that innin inning from structure is not there. there is not much danger of an ebola out break in the united states, you can have it here and we'll know how to control it. >> we know how to control-y bowl actual we know how to control outbreaks of ebola and i think this is a reminder to all of us of the importance i've working health system. what was really clear is particularly in liberia and
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sierra-y lean the health system infrastructure wasn't there. even when recognized you push the button on what we know how to do to do something about it. >> thithis is something that yoo at the m melinda gates foundati, you go do someplace where this isn't there how do you know ma money las to go where you need the protection, how do you response th supporsupport the building of an infractio infrastructure so they can be better prepared. >> $4 billion in terms of the world's efforts against global health and development that is actually relatively small so we look at the global burden of disease, we are looking at the did he seeses that arm well, children, families, the big burden of disease has been things like malaria, tuberculosis that's where we have made investments have traditionally.
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increasingly we see the health systems inning from structure is so needed. get me give i a good news idea some of infrastructure in nigeria of as a result gates funding and government funding has been on polio. literally within 12 hours one of those emergency centers was turned around to be a frontline center for ebola in laying owes. >> but we were worried when it got in to nigeria, but we nigh there is better health their infrastructure there. >> that is such a good example. the epidemic as of today appears to be have been contained . approximately 20 cases that shows you the importance of working with the inning structure. >> what i pleasure to talk true. if it feel like we have bounced from one thread to another it's because we have. u.s. air strikes in the middle east represent an important story to be sure, but i want to share a completely transparent look at why we are choosing to
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let the journalists live. i have spent hours on this show covering the financial challenges face booed you middle class americans trying to create a better life for their families. america is also home as you know to 45 million migrants who share that dream and they send much of the money they earn, the hard-earned money that they earn here to another countries. back home. to their families. they are part of a global population of migrants that the organization for economic
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cooperation and development, the oecd says now number 232 million people. that is enough to form the fifth largest nation in the world if they were a country. and they represent a huge economic force. the few research center says they now sends more than $500 billion to family members each year in what are known as remittances, that is triple the amount in 2000. one company that has a lot riding on the economic health the migrants is h western union they helped transfer $82 billion last year, much of it for migrants. the president and ceo of western union joins me now to explain how the company is benefiting from that surge in remittances. good to see you, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me here. >> these global patterns of whether it be conflict or incoming equality, or unrest, you see them all at western union, rights? you see up ticks and down ticks based on what is going on in the world? >> absolutely. we see the reflection of
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economical crisis or opportunities. the world crisis, political crisis are opportunities we see all the time. don't forget that we are in 200 countries. we have about 500,000 locations, 100,000atms and the migrants continue constantly move to new opportunities they leave their countries to sends back money to their loved ones, earlier in america there were about 45 million migrants and they miss home. and every time they send money from new york, for instance, to honduras from new york to pakistan, they change life. they change life of their loved ones and the number one reason why they send back home money is education. they want to send money to their children that their children have a better opportunity that they have -- they can go to a school, they can have a better life, and be supported. >> we did a series here at al jazerra border lands talking about people that cross in from
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mexico from guyed mall a and ... where he they might earn as laborers five to $10 a day depending on your physical ability they can come here and often work 100 to $150 work owe workingon a farm or in the it ss industries. they can send money home in much greater quantities than they could have will have learned and still afford it live here. you have seen those patterns? >> sure, we see the patterns in many countries. we have -- we call them corridors. and you know, they are middle east, america, and we see the patterns, the average amount of a transaction with us is about $300, but $300 doesn't sound a lot in america in the u.s. when you live here. $300 in honduras as you mentioned before it's a huge amount of money. in philippines it's huge money, it changes life. $200 you can sends a child to a school in philippines for a
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year year. that's giving them an opportunity so it's really -- we call them not customers, we call them heros our customers because they changed their loved ones life every time. >> what are the patterns you are seeing. we are following global unrest economic changes around the world i imagine i see the trends on a regular basis that certain groups sends money to certain countries what have you been seeing lately? >> europe lately. let me start like that. u.s. to latin america is a big corridor. then europe to africa and east europe is a big pattern for us. middle east to south asia is a big corridor for us, big business for us, but lately what swin we have seen is the european crisis especially saudi arabia and europe. spain the americans and africans sends money from spain back to africa. and now through the crisis, the spanish people start today
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immigrate instead, you know, immigration, to germany. and we see a big -- >> going from germany. >> from germany to spain. the number one learned foreign lounge within today is spain in german. >> no kidding. we are doing a lot of staff obviously the conflicts around the world and on financing them. with locations in 200 countries in the world or more, one must wonder, d how do you make sure u are not involved in the financing of terrorism? >> you know, i can proudly say we take this very serious, we invest a lot of money and i would say that we are one of the best anti-money laundering companies of the world. actually we are a money transfer company but take the anti-money laundering arc tiffs very serious, we do check every transaction. with every transaction we check actually twoism ds, the center's i.d. we look if there is a good i.d. and on the receiver, we check also receiver'sism d.
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listen think the customer trust us, the migrant and they want the money to arrive in a good way. and we we don't want bad money that's why we change check, why we controlism d.s and we do corporate with law enforcement . we couldn't with government. we check their lists and we take anti-money laundering very serious it's important for us and our brands. >> no kidding thank you for joining using us the president and chief executive officer at western union. as i said at the top of the show like it or not the united states is involved in another war in the middle east, the air strikes represent a big story it's why the majority of first half of the show was dedicated to it. but as we are all learning the fight against terror isn't going away. maybe not even in our lifetimes, other stories matter too and there are plenty of outlets if you prefer wall to wall
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headlines screaming about or. i don't mean to minimize the threat of terror but the urgent and growing threat of a changing lime mat is the onish that you will more dramatically define this century than any other. the challenge pose ed by climate change is ex-step sham middle existential. the global warming isn't going away neither y bowl actually will continue to cover the threat of terror but i won't let that ignore other story that his matter to you, not on this show. not ever. that's our show for tonight. thank you for joining me. i am ali velshi.
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